It’d be a deliberate deorbit. So someone would deliberately decide if debris would go down or not.
It’s more like reserving a spot in my view.
If something important enough came up they could just … not.

I suppose that’s worse since everything was held up to keep options open. Fuck all dem flights I guess.
To be fair I assume the thing was registered before the outage happened.

I see. It does seem weirdly phrased then though since there was no debris near Hawaii.

They do still mention it in this tweet:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_flight_15
Based on this, the crash was a few km off of the launch in (blue) Texas, and it seems the 2nd stage has just landed without imcident. The rocket afaik has no other parts than the two stages, and wikipedia just mentions Hawaii as a possible abort location that wasn’t used.

So I think this was not debris but “chance of debris”? Since it’s a quote you can’t blame the article for clickbait though I suppose. Kinda a weird thing though.

That seems odd that it wouldn’t happen on x11 on the same settings then. I’d place the blame on your window manager.
Mine at least has a setting for showing icons instead of the window contents, on both x11 and wayland. If I had a program without icon woth that setting I’d get a big icon no matter what.

The tweet they refer to seems to not exist?

wireless usb

I’ve only seen them on the taskbar for niche giu programs that don’t set an icon. Where do you get a big wayland placeholder?

Whats your lemmy app? I assume it doesn’t like svg

Xfce does support wayland, though in earlier stages than most, who had it somewhat stable it for like 3-4 years now. Xfce started experimentally with 4.20, and should be stabelizing it right now. If you update to 4.22 unstable it might just work just fine.

That’s ok. It’s ok to be wrong.

X11	wayland

I mean they are both really annoying.

Same for everyone with fillings.

(It’s photoshopped in paint)

Still quite a thing. Though probably slower than ever since programs have increasingly more trips back and forth with the display server, and with x11 every one of them has to transit the connection. With an 8ms ping to a server, I expect programs to take 10-30s to start, 5-10s to open dropdown menus, and ~3s+ to scroll. I’m quite happy waypipe is a thing, I mostly ditched ssh -X voluntarily to avoid all this, though sometimes suffering a slow program for a few minutes is still faster than installing waypipe when setting up a new system.

Btw. for now you can also still use X for this, it works just fine via xWayland on wayland desktops, and programs still generally support both x11 and wayland.

Is there an equivalent other than remote access?

Yes, there is waypipe. Very close analog to ssh -X, arguably better. Even lets me access my local clipboard in wl-copy/wl-paste commands on the remote.
It’s not part of ssh though, so needs to be installed on server and client.

I found waypipe to be way more responsive than X11, and just … better somehow. More integrated into the other programs.

When using it, take care that pam is enabled in sshd. Else it won’t initialize the proper xdg environment which wayland stuff doesn’t like.

that can work anywhere

prob more people using KDE now than X11 ;)

Universal stuff for those (under wayland) compositor-specific functionalities kinda became impossible when wayland became standard.

In some cases there’s tools that support kwin, mutter, and wlroots, which is now as close to universal as you can probably get for things without standardized wayland api.

Worse than the generic X11 one though?

wayland dwms can and do absolutely implement that. For example kwin has a setting to let programs access keyboard input in the X11 way for the old method of global shortcuts. And to disable the framebuffer for fullscreen games.

If you wanted, you could probably write a wayland compositor that has all the X11 apis that old management tools use. Wayland is just an api at the end of the day.

For instance multi window apps can’t tell the compositor where to put their windows

They can have positions lf existing windows saved and restored (still rolling out), and I think can ask for some details of initial placement outside of that too.
Of course still very limited and not handling the specific cases you mentioned.

registering global hotkeys

Setting up hotkeys is possible, just in a very different way. You have to have the desktop environment forward it, and for now specifics differ from de to de. Generally they can all bind actions though. A safe minimum-viable way should be to add shortcuttable actions to the desktop file I think, though the qt shortcut stuff should also generally work I think.

overscan correction

kwin at least has had that for a while

Personally for me I used to have a script invoked by tilting the sceoll wheel that’d send a shortcut (e.g. ctrl+page-up/down) to the window under the cursor without focussing it, letting me change tabs of unfocussed windows.
I think I did that by quickly changing input focus, sending it, then changing it back, with xdotool etc…
On wayland I’ve tried implementing that via kwin scripting a few times, but found it so hard to debug and to work with in comparison I never managed to recreate that simple tool.

Having universal posix-like tools to affect the window manager and user input from console is definitely something I miss occasionally.
Largely this is just a lack of wayland tools I am sure. And I must admit it’s been a while since I last tried.

Well prevent abuse that was also prevented from requiring phone numbers …
Not like those are perfect, just less bad than email.

4h at full speed. Uncapped is effectively an 8TB cap, so they delivered 0.6% of what they were supposed to.
My grandma has a plan like this and visiting her for less than a week detonates her (hidden) cap just from my phone backing up its apps.
My home internet sits at multiple TB a month despite backups etc. not even running through it since it syncs to my local nas on the same network.

On 50GB you coulnd’t even install a large game.