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  • I actually have heard people espouse that view, but I haven’t gone further than that as it’s usually coming from people who don’t really want to debate animal ethics.

    It’s technically related since someone might believe that creating life and avoiding death is more important than any amount of suffering. It makes endorsing factory farming and anti-abortion logically consistent. But it’s a technicality because I don’t think people have really thought that hard about it, ergo I agree with you it’s nonsensical.

    I thought their first and even second paragraphs are reasonable. They were not advocating for forced abortions or post birth abortions. I’m not clear on your objection.

    Also just generally in this thread, I’m seeing the pro life camp being boiled down to “anti choice”. Sure, that isn’t untrue. To restrict abortion rights is to restrict the choices of women. And to put them at medical risk in some cases, and to potentially bring a child into a world of misery.

    But if you’re starting from the premise of “it’s hard to say when life starts, we have to pick an arbitrary point, and I pick conception” then it’s logically consistent to call it murder after that point, and it’s reasonable to weigh the abortive rights of women against the morality of murder in that context.

    To be clear, I don’t think life-worth-protecting starts at conception. I’m playing devil’s advocate here. I just wish that us in the pro-choice camp acknowledged the problem as not so simple.


  • wabasso@lemmy.catoProgrammer Humor@programming.dev•Too real
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    6 months ago

    I have the problem that I give off a vibe as an onlooker. I’m not trying to be judgmental but I guess I ooze it.

    Edit: Your case makes me chuckle. I used to love watching IT struggle because I got rid of default desktop and quick launch icons. Finally we have all learned to search.



  • wabasso@lemmy.catoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•Gold
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    6 months ago

    I haven’t decided yet where I am on the spectrum between “zero obligation to work = utopia” and “humans need to have something to do”. But you made me chuckle sardonically at the realization that people living off dividends and interest are functionally the same as a welfare queen.



  • Agreed. I participate as a thoughtless investor trying to maximize the growth of my savings but I hate that I have to even bother. Extra work, some guilt or anxiety around whether you made the right choices, and more complicated taxes. I think it’s horseshit that I’m effectively obliged to play in this casino the ruling class set up, just so my money retains its value against inflation.

    I’m not against my money being used to grow businesses. But then just let the bank deal with it and pay me a fair interest rate for lending it to businesses. I still haven’t been given a good answer as to why the stock price of a company should have any effect on its day to day operations or revenue generation.


  • wabasso@lemmy.catoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•Gold
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    6 months ago

    I take your point that tech advancement without social progress can go awry. Automation replacing jobs at too rapid a pace feels like a very real threat to me right now. Maybe I’m biased by the last century where tech either lessened inequality or at least raised the standard of living for everyone, even if disproportionately applied across the population.

    But yeah since tech advancement is accelerating, it seems more likely society will be unable to keep up.


  • wabasso@lemmy.catoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•Gold
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    6 months ago

    I think it’d be more than incremental. Any place used use copper could likely have the gold upgrade. That’s all your wiring in your house and the EV market, maybe plumbing, heat pumps, and electronics too.

    The headache would be all the power grabs (durrr it landed near my country so it’s mine) and the capitalist machine taking forever for the means of manufacturing to lower the cost of finished goods via genuine competition.